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  Welcome to IDDD 1971 page.. A Work in progress - information is based on research and information from well known sources.  The US mint has produced an hour long programs (Secrets of the US mint) shot at the mint, using high ranking US mint technicians, including segments on fixes applied to dies.  There is a segment on repairing a paper money Working die and type of repair to the die and it's implications of coin die's of that period. 

Some information is carefully analyzed and presented as theory with very strong fiscal evidents pointing to the theory as being accurate, as more information is realized we will add it. 

 1971 s Doubled Die page.. Die's listed here are coins sent in for attribution to IDDD, some Working hub  doubled die's will be listed, all working die doubled die's - tripled - quadrupled - etc. will be listed with the reporters name and date recorded on each page.

All working die DDO/DDR Eisenhower doubled die attributions are attributed by Lead attributor Thomas Kalantzis.

All RPM attributions are attributed by Brian Vaile, varieties and working hub DDO/DDR attributed by Brian Vaile.

 Research on the Doubled die's is a on going, all new information or up-dates that become available will be included and reported, this is a " A Work in progress " 

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  Research on the Doubled die's is a on going, all new information or up-dates that become available will be included and reported, this is a " A Work in progress "

 This page will include Master hub, Master die, surrogate master die, Working hub Doubled die's.. New Working die doubled die or Tripled, quadrupled etc. die's.. The first set of doubled die's are New as of 2008 with a few of old listings staying in the New DDOs as of 2008 section of working die doubled die's.. The second set of listings are working hub doubled die's that are doubled die's transferred from already doubled working hub, these doubled die's ( Varieties of doubled die's ) that are representative of doubled working hubs can include master hub as well as master die representation, more information for each hub-die family shown below and in each die description by die number with new information added as it comes in.

        Anacs, the top recognized attribution and grade company in the USA has recognized our work, all the Ike dollar attributions are done by John Roberts and the Anacs attributing staff, John has worked in the Ike doubled die and Morgan dollar variety area for a many years and is considered a top expert of Ike dollar varieties and the Morgan dollar varieties for as long as I can remember and is at the top of his game, here are two Anacs holders with IDDD numbers on them.

                                                 IDDD Eisenhower Doubled Die standards and explanations.

    Research work is on going, changes made as realized, Obverse has 12 hubs, Reverse has 9.  

         Each hub represents a different hub number and the working die's attached to that working hub.

                                          Example of listings, ID Hub/Die 1 IDDDO-1 71 S PF WD-A P

                 IDDDO = Double die obverse.   IDDDR = Double die reverse.   IDDDV = stands for Variety.

     P = Philadelphia mint.    D = Denver mint.   S = San Francisco mint.  PF = Proof.   BS = Business strike.

     WD - stands for Working die.        WH - stands for Working hub.        IDDP - stands for Ike dollar die pair.

  CN = Copper nickel.  MH = Master Hub.   MD = Master Die.   CW = Clock wise.   CCW = Counter clock wise.

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 IDDD - For 1971 S die's. The Master die is used to make all the Working hubs as are needed. Doubled Master die's are made from an error in the hubbing process causing the Master die to be doubled, causes can be a wrong setting, lose dies, dirty float, doubled master die's are used to create new Working hubs.  Hundreds of Working hubs are made from a single Master die, in turn, the Working hubs are used to make Working die's. The Working hub is abraded as needed before being used in the process of making the Working die.

 Master hub (positive relief – looks like the coin),

 Master die (negative relief – or incused, not like the coin, opposite),

 Working hub (positive relief),

 Working die (negative relief)

 (Coin positive relief)

Before the dies are hubbed many hubs were abraded on the hub level too the R in Liberty. Two points of speculation.  Point to relief issues on the Working die and the relationship and proximity of the head and bottom or the foot of the R with it's two points, keep in mind on the die all the devices are incused  the top of the head and the foot of the R both being incused and very close to each other and the foot having two points could very well be the reason the die's would crack in the same orientation as the two points on the foot of the, weather the crack is in the field or on Ike's head the cracks always go west - east and if not abraded again would go on to break the die - A flaw in design and not repeated on 1972 S die's, by removing the left point or both inadvertently caused the R itself to have become smaller, less distance between the two points of the R and the points themselves, more distance between the foot of the R and the head.  At any given time if a repair was needed the hub can be pulled and worked on (Changes, such as abrading the R in liberty) once the change is made to the Working hub it is ready to be used to make the Working die, with a same image peg-leg or not, the doubling pattern is the same at the finished Working die level for all Working die's that are hubbed using hubs that are already doubled on the Master die level, these doubled and tripled die's are called and considered "Master doubled dies" image, is a die transfer from an already doubled Working hub to the new Working die.

                                                                      Stand alone, hub doubled die's.  

Tripling to quintupling can and most often happens at the last hubbing of a Working hub of a new Working die, can also happen by introducing a different hub into the process, can change the results as well (the next to last hubbing can also produce doubling - tripling etc. but would not be as crisp as the last hubbing, and possibly change again on the last hubbing) a none doubled hub can produce a doubled Working die as well, settings not correct, the float not working as designed due to dirt or other debris, or other occurrences... To date, some have shown parts of an earlier Master die doubling morphing into tripling or more, Most die numbers are pictorially available to view in the new die section "New as of 2008" Reverses have the largest range of separations from tripling to quintupling. There are less obverse "New as of 2008" to date.          

The last hubbing to a Working die, it is reasonable to say a different crisper hub can be employed to produce a crisper sharper - call it nicer looking example.

 The proof Working die is first abraded and polished as necessary, if you look at the space between the W & E you will notice some are close and some with wide separation, this is shown below "Die stage scale" the wider the space you see between the W & E tells us how much the Working die was abraded/polished and to what die stage, the scale helps show how much abrading was done to be placed in said stage, then after the abrading is complete a polishing, frosting "Beautification" at this time the die is ready to be used.

 Master doubled die through the above process as well as other processes could have been employed, the strongest evidence points to use of "surrogates" A Working die or hub put aside to be used at a different time as Masters, hubs were put aside and used to make new dies at a different time - Working dies were put aside and used to make hubs at a later time as well, this information is documented in the Eisenhower dollar documents.

  These surrogates were made in 1971 to be used for 1972 through 1978 less the 1975 - 1976 dual date, Master hubs and Working hubs had only the first three numbers of the date with the last digit added depending on the date that was needed.  These surrogate hubs made in 1971 for future use will turn up in later dates in the form of same doubled dies as seen in 1971.  1975 - 1976 dual date doubling is from two Master hubs and die.  

 It is very possible surrogates were used for 1971 proof dies as well.

  A special thank you to organizations and individuals that contributed in some way, in alphabetical order: ANA, Anacs, Coneca, Ncadd, Brian Allan, John Bordner, Mike (Skip) Fizzari, Ken Potter, John Roberts, John Wexler, James Wiles, Robert Ezerman & Brian Vaile for providing me a copy of the Eisenhower dollar mint documents.

 Question? Are all Eisenhower dollar Master die's doubled, no, however most are. 

If the Working hub is already doubled that doubling pattern will be transferred on to the Working die, Working die's  produced from a same Working hub unless doubling occurs again on the last hubbings of the Working die.  Look at hub 3 representative Working dies and hub 7 Working dies and you will see a same doubling pattern on the dies that are representative of the parent working hub, scroll down and you will see the hubs listed from hub 1 and on, each hub represents Working dies made from that particular numbered hub, and all the different Working dies within, this includes peg leg or full leg on the R of liberty. 

                                                                       Working Hub - doubled die

                              A Working hub doubled die is doubling passed down from a doubled Master die.

                             Stand alone Working die - doubled die, tripled, quadrupled etc are all Very RARE. 

              These are the rarest form of die doubling, to date are known as being stand alone die representatives.

                   What is the difference between a Working hub DDO and a Working die DDO or TDO or TDR etc.

 Working hubs are already doubled at the Master die level and passed onto the Working hub, in turn the doubled Working hub simply transfers the doubled image onto the Working die through the hubbing process.

                                                                        Working die doubled die

Working die doubled die's when the Working die is being hubbed incorrectly, any wrong settings or misalignment, or the float not working properly due to debris as well as using different hubs can cause die doubling as well as a tilted looking strike showing on the coin as a one sided doubled die stronger on side to no visible doubling on the other side. New as of 2008 tripled etc. are images overwritten through the hubbing process, with new tripled - quadrupling, etc. happens again on the last hubbing effecting the outer devices, these die's are stand alone tripled etc. dies (TDO/TDR etc.) This type of doubled, tripled etc. dies are almost always doubled twice, first on the Master die, then again Working die, tripled or more on to the new working die by the last hubbing and possibly next to last hubbing, this is why some Working dies are Very RARE and others very common.

                                                                            Abrasion doubling

  Abrasion doubling occurs when abrading a die heavily leaving and can leave serrated look at the edges of both letters and numbers alike.

                                                                        Deterioration doubling

 Will show severe distortion in the form of an open split serif at the edges of both letters and numbers that look like a doubled die most often have a mushy look from die wear.

Mint records speak of fresh surrogate Working die's were put away to be re-used as Master die's for future use and for different dates.

Also mentioned in the records, that two different hubs were used to create a die, (more info to come on this) it is likely the known cases of Proof/BS strikes came from mixing different hubs.

                                                          As you see the possibilities are endless.

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                The last letter P stands for peg-leg abraded R in liberty and S for full serif R in liberty.

 Below--LINKS are in BLUE Click any link to bring you to the Die number you would like to research, to return just click the link on the description, the link will be in BLUE.  A P will be added at the end of the link for Peg leg R in liberty, full serif R in liberty will show an S for serif at the end of the link.

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           The Ike Dollar die's, as in all other dies of that time period, were polished many times, this was done to keep the coin being produced looking pristine. If a clashing of dies occurred - the mint worker would have to remove the clash image on the die by polishing and or abrading the die. If a die was damaged, the mint workers would have to abrade the die and another polishing, if a die needs to be abraded, it also receives a polishing to cover and clean up the rough abraded area. With all this going on, we must also include the dies wear, as time goes on the die itself is removed from production due to use. The above information are some of the reasons we need a STAGE and DIE STATE definitions, I find it alarming that a coin that is frosted up after a beautification can sell for more then before it was abraded and polished. Some may say this coin… must be an early struck coin, but is it really? I have in my possession coins just like what I just described, beautiful but is it really an early struck coin? Not necessarily, because the coins die may have just gone through (a beautification) polishings and enhancements to the raised area's of the die and the field, this is done to keep the coin that is produced from any given proof working die to continue to look good. This technique the mint employed has a direct implication to the dies life and stage and die state at any given time. Early die struck coin's are the rarest. We need to know the difference between the earliest struck specimens and the later struck specimens. As you can see we have many reasons for this need to know.

        Stage; Any given stage can have early too later die states depending on die wear.

Because the mint abraded each die differently (Less or More) depending on each individual die needs, for any given reason, the die State on a fresh die may not be seen necessarily, as an early die State. A die can be abraded to the point of losing much image and leaving the die representative looking a bit mushy and missing or feathered lettering, look at the picture below stage F, notice the rounded look to the letters of WE, far apart and missing detail.

With this in mind any given die may not be able to produce an early (EDS) die state specimen as we know it, but rather a fresh crisp strike off an abraded die leaving the coin looking pristine to the eye and yet not able to say yes indeed this is an early die state because of missing detail, We can say a stage C specimen with early details for the stage or late details if the die has more wear in that same stage due to die's use.

Lets take a look at Stage A first strikes, a stage A can produce early die state specimens EDS and within that die state small changes occur as the die's usage continues. The die wear changes are missing or have less detail, also they are not as crisp a strike. After an unspecific time frame, the die can be refinished with just a polishing. If the mint worker feels the die needs to be abraded and then polished again for a specific reason, as mentioned above with stage C, stage A have early crisp specimens and in the same stage later not as crisp specimens again depending on use.

Each stage representative (Coin) should be accompanied with a die state, such as early or mid or late per stage when available, this die state - stage issue becomes important when buying or selling your coins, a lesser die state will bring less dollars when selling the coins, early die states will fetch more when selling the coin.          

The best I could ask for would be an early die stage and die state combination.                 

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                                                                All die's are polished before use. 

Obverse VEDS stage AA: Close WE ( W & E touch ) the die is polished and can be lightly abraded at this stage.. ( Space between the W and E of WE touch or very close too touching one another, a residue bridge may be seen between the WE due to polishing at this stage.          

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Obverse EDS stage A: Close WE.. Die is abraded and polished at this stage, ( Space between the W & E of WE are close too each other but do not touch, also the edges of the WE are well defined )

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Obverse EMDS stage B: Semi close WE ( Space seen between the W & E of WE ) dies may have been polished multiple times at this stage, abraded at least once, the edges of W & E are not defined very well from polishings, general note, because of die abrasion and polishings many letters are not crisp and have loss of detail.

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Obverse MDS stage C: Open WE ( The W & E of WE now have a wider space between them ) the letters W & E of WE can be weak at the tops of both letters due to abrading and polishings. some letters show weakness towards the center ( head ) on occasion the weakness is seen towards the rim ( Tops of letters )

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Obverse LMDS stage D: Open W E.. at this stage the die has been polished & abraded more then the above stages, the space between the W & E is wide now and the WE can be lightly deformed at this stage.

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Obverse LDS strike E: Only ( Wide open W  E in We, the letters can be well deformed and far apart from each other due to die abrasion and polishing ) some doubled die's can not be attributed at this stage.  
                                              
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Obverse VLDS stage F: Same description as above with the space between the W   E even wider apart from each other then LDS, well deformed due to die abrasion and polishings, many smaller doubled die's at this stage are unidentifiable, only stronger doubled die's are recognizable at this stage.  

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 Obverse XLDS stage G: Information is same as above, space between the W   E is at it's widest position. 

                                              Above obverse is in stage G - Die number IDDDO-81.  

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                                                                             Die/Hub Markers

 Dies were "reserved" (Surrogate) in 1971 to be used for 1971 - 1972 and beyond, because some Working dies have Master hub or Master die representation, does not mean any given doubled die has not been doubled again since the (Master hub or Master die doubling) at any time during the process more doubling can and does happen, as a result the Working die is doubled or tripled etc. on top of, and as well as master influence's and are the rarest.. Listed just below - New IDDD obverse working tripled dies as of 2008. 

Die/Hub Markers are used for determining dies at various die stages and/or die states, some markers on dies happen earlier before the die is actually put to use such markers are rare, most markers are short lived only lasting till the next set of abrasions and or polishings that are applied for various reasons, mint mark positioning is among one of the best markers as the mint mark is placed on the die before the die is put to use, and lasts till the die is removed from service, we use scratches from polishings and abrasions unfortunately only last for a short time, the short-lived markers do help us unfortunately most are available for one or two die states.

  A (Cut mark "line") before the die is put into service the die itself is put through a polishing of the fields and frosting to all the devices, a clear cellophane (Masking) is put on the die by the mint worker then very carefully cuts the cellophane masking at the edge of the devices (Letters - head - bust - date) when all the cutting to the cellophane is done the mint worker removes the masking from the devices leaving only the field covered, the devices are then frosted.

The cutting is very important and if done correctly the line is very difficult to see, if the cut line is on the device in error becomes a marker that shows itself as a raised line weather from the tool itself or some extension of, usually lasting from a very early die state to later die states making the cut line a long-lasting or longer-lasting marker.

  The US mint has made hour long programs (Secrets of the US mint) while watching one of these programs, a segment on cutting away of the cellophane on the working dies devises, showing you how it was done for the time period of the Ike dollar production, the above information was derived directly from one of those program segments preparing the working die for frosting. 

To date there are known reverse die's that have frosting in the mirrored field around the moon do to improper masking or jig. 

To date there are a few known reverse dies that have frosting in the mirrored field around the moon due to improper masking - IDDDR-113 - Obverse is IDDDO-137. work continues in this area.

  A Hub marker or damage to the hub happens before the die is made can also happen at any given time when being handled, dies are made directly from hubs and any error on the hub including gouges and or other introduced in the hubbing, die metal, scratches, etc. transfer through "Struck through proof hubbed" this type of marker usually lasts for a fair amount of time "Stage" and die state in relation to the time of the strike through, also these markers help us to realize if a same hub is being used to produce Philadelphia, Denver, or San Francisco minted coins, hub defects can be removed on the working die by abrading and then polishing the working die.                                                                         

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                                                                                      The Grail                                                           

                         New IDDD Obverse Doubled Die listings as of 2008.

                   Working Die Doubled and tripled etc. are stand alone die's.

          To date listed below are the rarest of the doubled to quintupled die's. 

              Markers ** are IDDD discovered doubled dies shared with John Wexler & James Wiles.

                    The last letter P stands for peg-leg abraded R in liberty and S for full serif R in liberty.

 IDDDO-8-A 71-S PF P  - IDDDR-25. Wexler - WDDO-008/WDDR-011 - Wiles DDO-003 FS 103 - 15.8 --Top pick.

 IDDDO-20 71-S PF P  - IDDDR-20B. Wexler Past reference WDDO-020 - New - WDDO-010.

 IDDDO-30 71-S PF S  - IDDDR-49. Wexler New DDO WDDO-018**. ---------------- Obverse ---------------- Top pick.

 IDDDO-31 71-S PF S  - IDDDR-24. Wexler Past reference WDDO-30 - New WDDO-003. --Obverse----Top pick.

 IDDDO-43 71-S BS S  - Wexler Past reference WDDO-006 - New WDDO-001. 

 IDDDO-71 71-S PF S  - IDDDR-56. Wexler Past reference WDDO-043 - New WDDO-014. ---- see below.

 IDDDO-96 71-S PF P  - IDDDR-81. Wexler New DDO WDDO-017**/WDDR-015**. see below ---- Obv-Top Pick.

 IDDDO-102 71-S PF S  - IDDDR-69 shown on 71 s this page.

 IDDDO-105 71-S PF S  - IDDDR-89 shown on 71 s this page.

 IDDDO-131 71-S PF S  - IDDDR-WH-4 shown on 71 s page two.

 IDDDO-142 71-S PF S  - IDDDR-WH-6 shown on 71 s page two.

 IDDDO-142B 71-S PF S - IDDDR-WH-6 shown on 71 s page two.

 IDDDO-149 71-S PF S  - IDDDR-WH-6 shown on 71 s page two.

 IDDDO-150 71-S PF P  - IDDDR-133. New DDR -------------------------------------------------------Obverse------Top Pick.

 IDDDO-161 71-S PF P  - IDDDR-WH-8 shown on 71 s page three.

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 We have a same die IDDDO-31, this die has a very thin cut-line type die gouge ( Marker ) the culprit is the cutting tool the die worker used for the Ike dollar to cut around the devises - around Ike's head and bust as well as the letters and date, we have three different die Stages and die states, EDS has almost no space between the W & E of we, the die also has a full serif R in liberty, we have the same die in early, mid, and late die states with the cut line markers and same mint mark placement, interesting is No change on the serif's on the R in liberty, realizing a massive amount of die abrasion starting with a small amount of abrasion and working its way to a deeper abrasion at the LDS level and yet NO change on the R of liberty, tells me no amount of die abrasion actually changed the R serif's into a Peg-Leg on this working die, old thinking had the R serif's in liberty removed through die abrasion, here we have a same die from Stage A through E from EDS to LDS with almost no change to the serif's on the R in Liberty, also from no space between the WE to a large space between the W E due to die abrasion and polishing, this proves the old thinking wrong, the old thinking was the R serif's were abraded off at the working die level, we also have a few die's that have peg legs in two stages and die state with No change to the peg-Leg R in Liberty.

            IDDD has done the work and boasts the largest amount of attributed doubled die's for the collector.

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  IDDDO Hub 1 low relief 40% S ( Serif & Peg-leg R in Liberty ) Class I CW spread seen on IN GOD WE TRUST, doubling seen on left upper and left lower serifs, same for seven and last one, CW spread on Liberty. 

Tripling shows on some letters, most notably the top right of the S in trust, can be seen from early to late die stage, shows very well when die is in early stage B.. S

  IDDDO-Master.

  NOTE: All doubling may not show due to weak strike, tilted strikes, grease, die abrasion-polishing or wear.

                  The last letter P stands for peg-leg abraded R in liberty and S for full serif R in liberty.

            IDDDO+V-8A 71-S ( P )  IDDDO-44 71-S ( S )       IDDDO-45 71-S ( S )      IDDDO-85 71-S ( S )

            IDDDO-97 71-S ( S )       IDDDO-98 71-S ( S )       IDDDO-109 71-S ( S )    IDDDO-110 71-S ( S )                                

 This obverse doubling pattern is seen on one 1971 P die pair to date - IDDDO-8A = Wexler past reference WDDO-007, Wiles lists this one as DDO-009.

                                                                   Cross references for hub 1:

  ( IDDDO-8A = Wexler past reference WDDO-007 = New reference WWHO-001 use link above )

  ( IDDDO-109 = Wexler past reference WDDO-006 = New reference WWHO-001 on this page - scroll down )

 Note Values for coins that have errors as well as doubling should be added to its value, major and well documented errors may be included in prices, prices including errors will be listed at the top of each price values page.

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  IDDDO Hub 2 low relief 40% S ( Serif R ) Class II & V seen on IN GOD WE TRUST.  See last picture below. CCW on LIBERTY, serif on right side of R of Liberty. 

  IDDDO-Master. 

  NOTE: All doubling may not show due to weak strike, tilted strikes, grease, die abrasion-polishing or wear.

                      IDDDO-72 71-S      IDDDO-73 71-S      IDDDO-74 71-S      IDDDO-89 71-S

                  IDDDO-99 71-S      IDDDO-100 71-S    IDDDO-107 71-S    IDDDO-112 71-S   

                                                                      Cross reference for hub 2:

                                       ( IDDDO-72 = Wexler Past reference WDDO-003 shown below )

 Note Values for coins that have errors as well as doubling should be added to its value, major and well documented errors may be included in prices, prices including errors will be listed at the top of each price values page.

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   IDDDO Hub 3 high relief Proof ( Tripled - Full & Peg Leg R in Liberty ) Class II on IN GOD WE TRUST, early die stage B will show nice tripling on the bottom right serif of the first T in trust.  See larger picture below. 

  NOTE: All doubling may not show due to weak strike, tilted strikes, grease, die abrasion-polishing or wear. 

         The last letter P stands for peg-leg abraded R in liberty and S for full serif R in liberty.

   IDDDO-WH-3

   Master. 

                  IDDDO-1 71-S ( S )        IDDDO-2 71-S ( P )      IDDDO-15 71-S ( S )     IDDDO-21 71-S ( P )      

                  IDDDO-22 71-S ( S )      IDDDO-24 71-S ( S )    IDDDO-26 71-S ( S )     IDDDO-28 71-S ( S )

    IDDDO Hub 4 high relief Proof ( Peg-leg R ) Class II doubled, CW on IN GOD WE TRUST, CCW LIBERTY, some are seen with doubling strongest on TY, others not, depending on strike.

  IDDDO-Master.

  NOTE: All doubling may not show due to weak strike, tilted strikes, grease, die abrasion-polishing or wear.

                 IDDDO-115 71-S P

                                                                    Cross reference for hub 4:

                                 ( IDDDO-115 = past reference WDDO-026 shown on this page )

 Note Values for coins that have errors as well as doubling should be added to its value, major and well documented errors may be included in prices, prices including errors will be listed at the top of each price values page.

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   IDDDO Hub 5 low relief 40% ( Full R in Liberty) Class V CW spread seen on IN GOD WE TRUST, CCW spread on LIBERTY, split serif on top and bottom right of first one in date, the seven and second one have split serif on the bottom right serif, split serif W of we.  Later die stage and die states lose most of the doubling in Liberty and causes other distortions due to die abrasion and general wear.  

  IDDDO-Master.

  NOTE: All doubling may not show due to weak strike, tilted strikes, grease, die abrasion-polishing or wear.

                 IDDDO-52 71-S      IDDDO-52B 71-S     IDDDO-53 71-S     IDDDO-54 71-S    IDDDO-55 71-S 

                 IDDDO-76 71-S

                                                 Coin shown is IDDDO-52 = Past reference WDDO-004       

                                                                       Cross reference for hub 5:

              ( IDDDO-52 = Wexler Past reference WDDO-004 New reference WWHO-005 = Wiles DDO-7 )

                      ( IDDDO-54 = Wiles DDO-25/DMR-16 )              ( IDDDO-55 = Wiles DDO-25/DMR-20 )

 Hub 5; has the least working die's to date.

 Note Values for coins that have errors as well as doubling should be added to its value, major and well documented errors may be included in prices, prices including errors will be listed at the top of each price values page.

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  IDDDO Hub 6 High relief Proof ( Peg-Leg R in Liberty)  Class I + II  Die looks very much the same as hub 8, Class I and II on IN GOD WE TRUST and DATE - CW spread on LIBE-TY.  W of we have no split serif's.

  NOTE: All doubling may not show due to weak strike, tilted strikes, grease, die abrasion-polishing or wear.

            IDDDO-34 71-S P - IDDDR-27        IDDDO-133 71-S P

                                                                    Cross reference for hub 6:

                                       ( IDDDO-16 Reverse IDDDR-10 linked in the as of 2008 dies )

 Note Values for coins that have errors as well as doubling should be added to its value, major and well documented errors may be included in prices, prices including errors will be listed at the top of each price values page.

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   IDDDO Hub 7 high relief proof ( Full and Peg-leg R in Liberty ) CW IN GOD WE TRUST, CCW seen on LIBERTY, W of we has split serif's.

  IDDDO-Master.

  NOTE: All doubling may not show due to weak strike, tilted strikes, grease, die abrasion-polishing or wear.

        The last letter P stands for peg-leg abraded R in liberty and S for full serif R in liberty.

                            IDDDO-6 71-S ( S )               IDDDO-10 71-S ( S )            IDDDO-11 71-S ( S )       IDDDO-13 71-S ( S )

                 IDDDO-14 71-S ( S )      IDDDO-25 71-S ( S )       IDDDO-33 71-S ( S )            IDDDO-35 71-S ( S )

                 IDDDO-37 71-S ( P )      IDDDO-41 71-S ( S )            IDDDO-49 71-S ( P )       IDDDO-50 71-S ( P )        

                 IDDDO-56 71-S ( P )      IDDDO-59 71-S ( S )       IDDDO-60 71-S ( S )       IDDDO-61 71-S ( P ) 

                 IDDDO-63 71-S ( S )      IDDDO-65 71-S ( S )       IDDDO-70 71-S ( S )          IDDDO-80 71-S ( S )

                            IDDDO-84 71-S ( S )       IDDDO-86 71-S ( P )       IDDDO-88 71-S ( P )      IDDDO-90 71-S ( S )

                 IDDDO-91 71-S ( S )       IDDDO-92 71-S ( S )       IDDDO-104 71-S ( S )    IDDDO-111 71-S ( S )

                 IDDDO-113 71-S ( S )     

                            Above Coin shown is IDDDO-49 = FS 106. Wexler Past reference WDDO-022.

                                                                     Cross reference for hub 7:

             ( IDDDO-11 = Wexler Past reference WDDO-032 use link )

        ( IDDDO-13 = Wexler Past reference WDDO-037 use link )         

        ( IDDDO-37 = Wexler Past reference WDDO-023 use link )

        ( IDDDO-41 = Wexler Past ref WDDO-029 has 2 reverses use link )

        ( IDDDO-49 = FS 106. Wexler Past reference WDDO-022 use link )

 Note To date for hub 7 there are 30 or more working die's for hub 7 second most used working die group.

 Note Values for coins that have errors as well as doubling should be added to its value, major and well documented errors may be included in prices, prices including errors will be listed at the top of each price values page.

 Note Valuations for hub 7 working die's is determined by size of separation as well as stage and die state.

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  IDDDO Hub 8 high relief Proof ( Peg-leg R in Liberty) Class I CW IN GOD WE TRUST, CW LIBERTY, W of we has no split serif's.

  IDDDO-Master.

  NOTE: All doubling may not show due to weak strike, tilted strikes, grease, die abrasion-polishing or wear.

                IDDDO-4 71-S        IDDDO-9 71-S        IDDDO-19 71-S     IDDDO-32 71-S      IDDDO-36 71-S      

                           IDDDO-38 71-S          IDDDO-39 71-S      IDDDO-40 71-S       IDDDO-42 71-S     IDDDO-103 71-S    

                IDDDO-82 71-S      IDDDO-116 71-S    IDDDO-117 71-S   IDDDO-119 71-S

                                                                     Cross reference for hub 8:

          ( IDDDO-32 = Wexler Past reference WDDO-9 use link above )

          ( IDDDO-36 = Wexler Past reference WDDO-010 use link above )

          ( IDDDO-39 = Wiles DDO-26 use link above )

          ( IDDDO-141 = Wexler Past reference WDDO-012 shown on 71 s page two )

 Note Values for coins that have errors as well as doubling should be added to its value, major and well documented errors may be included in prices, prices including errors will be listed at the top of each price values page.

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  IDDDO Hub 9 high relief Proof ( Peg-leg R in Liberty ) split serif's on the tops of IGWT, CCW seen on IN G-D WE TRU. 

  IDDDO-Master.

  NOTE: All doubling may not show due to weak strike, tilted strikes, grease, die abrasion-polishing or wear.

                  IDDDO-5 71-S       IDDDO-12 71-S       IDDDO-17 71-S     IDDDO-27 71-S     IDDDO-29 71-S

                  IDDDO-46 71-S     IDDDO-57 71-S       IDDDO-62 71-S     IDDDO-66 71-S 

                                                                    Cross reference for hub 9: 

                      ( IDDDO-57 = Wiles DDO-22 use link above )

 Note Values for coins that have errors as well as doubling should be added to its value, major and well documented errors may be included in prices, prices including errors will be listed at the top of each price values page.

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  IDDDO Hub 10 high relief Proof ( Full R in Liberty ) CW doubling seen on depending on stage and die state, IN, D of god, E of we, TRU. CCW doubling seen on IN, G-D, W of we, TRST. 

  IDDDO-Master.

  NOTE: All doubling may not show due to weak strike, tilted strikes, grease, die abrasion-polishing or wear.

                       IDDDO-7 71-S       IDDDO-120 71-S ( S )      IDDDO-122 71-S 

                               ( IDDDO-120 = Wexler Past reference WDDO-034 shown below )

 Note Values for coins that have errors as well as doubling should be added to its value, major and well documented errors may be included in prices, prices including errors will be listed at the top of each price values page.

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  IDDDO Hub 11 high relief Proof ( Peg-leg R in Liberty) ( Doubled )  A very thin Class II & V, CW & CCW on IN GOD WE TRUST. 

  IDDDO-Master.

  NOTE: All doubling may not show due to weak strike, tilted strikes, grease, die abrasion-polishing or wear.

           IDDDO-3 71-S             IDDDO-17 71-S      IDDDO-23 71-S ( S )      IDDDO-51 71-S     IDDDO-101 71-S

           IDDDO-93 71-S ( P )   IDDDO-106 71-S    IDDDO-114 71-S            IDDDO-121 71-S  

                                                                      Cross reference for hub 11:

 Note Values for coins that have errors as well as doubling should be added to its value, major and well documented errors may be included in prices, prices including errors will be listed at the top of each price values page.

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   IDDDO+Variety low relief 40% ( Peg-Leg R in Liberty)

  IDDDO-V

  NOTE: All doubling may not show due to weak strike, tilted strikes, grease, die abrasion-polishing or weak.

    IDDDO+V-8A 71-S   ( Very Scarce )    IDDDO+V-8-B 71-S   ( Scarce )   IDDDO+V-118 71-S straight leg ( X Rare )

  Very Few specimens known to date & valuable.        Straight legged peglegs are the Rarest of the 1971 S Peg legs.

                                                                                     Coin shown is IDDDO+V-8B = FS-401 = Peg-leg.

                                                                    Cross reference for hub 6:

        ( IDDDO-8A is also listed in hub 1 group, listed also as a Peg-leg )       ( IDDDO-8B = FS-401 Peg-leg )

 Note Values for coins that have errors as well as doubling should be added to its value, major and well documented errors may be included in prices, prices including errors will be listed at the top of each price values page. ____________________________________________________________________________________________

                                                                                           IDDDO Hub 12 for Prototypes & mixed relief.

        As of 1/1/2011 there are two known mixed relief doubled die's recorded, each have a DDO recorded.

      -------            -------           --------          --------          --------        --------        --------        --------       --------      --------

       As of 3/2/2013 there are four known proof DDO with a very rare proof type 1 reverse, experimental in nature, an article put out by coin world, JP Martin surmises that up to 3500 of these proofed type 1 coins exist, he also noted for the reverse, due to die polishing, the stars and E Pluribus Unum were polished down to nearly field level.

       The type 1 die is low relief, the mint tried to make a low relief proof as an experiment, it also failed.

       Also mentioned, the first two coins were discovered in 1997, both are PF68 another and sent to James Wiles in 2007 PF69, another in 2013 

       Because this was not a regular issue coin, IDDD surmises far fewer then the 3500 coin projection, we believe 50 or less exist with a value put in the low five figures.

       Congratulations to Andrew J Oskam for a great find, Andy has contributed much to the Ike dollar collector.

 and supplied the pictures below of this great find, Thank you Andy for letting IDDD show your pictures.

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                                                                        Unassigned Die's Obverse     

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                                             New IDDD Reverse Doubled Die listings as of 2008
                               Working die doubled die's are stand alone tripled quadrupled etc. dies.

           To date the dies listed below are of the rarest doubled, tripled, quadrupled etc. die's for 1971 S.

        Markers ** are IDDD discovered doubled dies shared with John Wexler and or James Wiles.

 IDDDR-2  ------- IDDDO-126  Seen on page two, Reverse New Wexler cross WDDR-013** 

 IDDDR-2B  ----- IDDDO-50.

 IDDDR-3  ------- IDDDO-3  Reverse New Wexler cross WDDR-009** ------------------------------- Reverse--Top pick.

 IDDDR-3B  ----- IDDDO-46.

 IDDDR-5  ------- IDDDO-19.

 IDDDR-6  ------- IDDDO-57.

 IDDDR-10  ----- IDDDO-16 - hub 6..  Reverse New Wexler cross WDDR-004**

 IDDDO-14  ----- IDDDO-24

 IDDDO-17  ----- IDDDO-23

 IDDDR-25  ----- IDDDO-8-A.

 IDDDR-32

 IDDDR-34  ----- IDDDO-047 Obverse & Reverse New WDDR-011**/WDDO-016** cross Wiles DDR-6** 

 IDDDR-35  ----- IDDDO-48 Reverse New Wexler WDDR-010** Wiles DDR-5, FS-801-------------------------Top pick.

 IDDDR-48  ----- Reverse New Wexler cross WDDR-012**

 IDDDR-63  ----- IDDDO-78  Reverse New Wexler cross WDDR-014** ------------------------------ Reverse--Top pick.

 IDDDR-66  ----- IDDDO-36. Wexler old cross WDDO-010.

 IDDDO-66B  --- IDDDO-81. 

 IDDDO-68

 IDDDR-72  ----- IDDDO-87.

 IDDDR-73  ----- IDDDO-88  ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Reverse---Top pick. 

 IDDDR-81  ----- IDDDO-96  Reverse and Obverse New Wexler cross WDDR-015**/WDDO-017**

 IDDDR-89  ----- IDDDO-105 shown on this page.  

 IDDDR-94  ----- IDDDO-116  Reverse New Wexler cross WDDR-016** ---------------------------- Reverse--Top pick.

 IDDDR-106  --- IDDDO-121  Reverse New Wexler cross WDDR-017**

 IDDDR-106B  - IDDDO-127 Seen on page two.

 IDDDR-107  --- IDDDO-122  Reverse New Wexler cross WDDR-018**

 IDDDR-108  --- IDDDO-123.

 IDDDR-118  --- IDDDO-142 Seen on page two - Wexler old Obverse cross WDDO-019.

 IDDDR-119  --- IDDDO-136. 

 IDDDR-131  --- IDDDO-148 Seen on page two.

 IDDDR-133  --- IDDDO-150  New DDO.

 IDDDR-134  --- IDDDO-151 Seen on page two ------------------------------------------------------------ Reverse---Top Pick.  

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                                                       IDDD's position on Working hub doubled die's.

 The Reverse Doubled Die's below represent master Doubled Die's and unlike the obverse Die's that have a solid Marker such as the Mint Mark - without a solid Marker the reverse will be listed with each hub number such as IDDD-R-WH-1 through IDDDR-WH-9.. in such case that a solid Marker can be attributed to a particular die state a DDR number will be assigned.

                                                  Reverse UN-assigned hub working die with a link.

  IDDDR-4  IDDDR-23  IDDDR-38  IDDDR-46 

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  IDDDR low relief 40% Hub 1: CW lower left UNITED STATES OF AMERICA One Dollar (Left LLAR) 

  IDDDR-Master.  

  IDDDR-61   IDDDR-97   

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  IDDDR high relief PF 40% Hub 2: CW United, A states, of America, lower right N One, right AR.

  IDDDR-Master.

  IDDDR-7   IDDDR-7-B   IDDDR-9   IDDDR-19  IDDDR-30B  IDDDR-36   IDDDR-40   IDDDR-44B   IDDDR-50 

  ( IDDDR-30B = Wexler old reference WDDR-019 - WDDO-029/WDDR-019 second reverse )

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  IDDDR high relief 40% PF Hub 3: CW United, A states, of America, lower left ONE & DOLLAR.

  IDDDR-Master.

  IDDDR-1-B    IDDDR-3-C   IDDDR-16   IDDDR-18A   IDDDR-29   IDDDR-49   IDDDR-65B    IDDDR-96

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  IDDDR high relief 40% PF Hub 4: CCW United of America, Left ONE DOLLAR.

  IDDDR-Master. 

  IDDDR-30A   IDDDR-41   IDDDR-51  IDDDR-105

  ( IDDDR-105 = Wexler old reference WDDR-016 )

  ( IDDDR-30A is the first reverse for Wexler old reference WDDO-029 )

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  IDDDR low relief 40% Hub 5: CW lower left UNI, CCW lower right RI of America, lower left LLAR. 

  IDDDR-Master.

  IDDDR-31   IDDDR-84 

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  IDDDR high relief PF Hub 6: CW lower left and or upper right of UNITED & States CCW of AMERICA & star under R, FG, left & Right one, Bottom left D in dollar, Right AR. doubling on the lower leaves, right side branch and split serif left branch end ( Knock ) 

  IDDDR-Master.

  IDDDR+V-69 ( Struck through Proof hubbed in die metal retained ) 

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   IDDDR high relief 40% PF and 40% low relief Hub 7: Class I CCW United States of America, bottom right N & E of one, right AR.

  IDDDR-Master.

  IDDDR- Low relief

  IDDDR- High relief   IDDDR-1E   IDDDR-11A   IDDDR-20B   IDDDR-75 

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  IDDDR high relief 40% PF Hub 8: Early stage A & B and die state EDS show doubling both ways on most letters..  CCW spread in the form of split serif's on the upper left and lower right serif's of UNITED depending on die stage and state, CW spread in the form of split serif's seen on the lower left serif's of TATE OF AMERICA - Early Stage B show AMERICA with split serif's on both lower left and right serif's "a shift to the center" on E PLURIBUS UNUM in the form of split serif's, stars 3-13, FG & leaf below, bottom right serif's of the NE of one, Early Stage B have both left and right lower serif's with split serif's, DLAR have split serifs on the lower left serifs, first L has split serif's on the upper right and the lower right, the second L has split serif's on all three serif's.. Later stage C show split serif's on the tips of LL in dollar, Stage D will show only the left serif of the N in one. 

  IDDDR-Master.

  IDDDR-1AA   IDDDR-123 ( Obverse die marriage WDDO-009 ) 

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  IDDDR low relief 40% Hub 9: CCW United states of America, Upper left on One and D-LL of dollar and lower right AR of dollar. Stage B shows CW spread on ONE DOLLAR.

  IDDDR-Master.

  IDDDR-1-D    IDDDR-33    IDDDR-83   IDDDR-96

   This doubling pattern is seen on 1971 P and is the predominant reverse for the FEV working die.

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    This information can cause changes to any class of doubling..     A hub or die that is set incorrectly or the float not working correctly can cause distorted affects - For instance, one side of the die can show strong doubling or tripling and at the same time the other side can show very little to none, the coins are then struck with the die's.                                                                   

                                                                   Classes of Hub Doubled Dies

 Class I Rotated Hub Doubling:

 Happens when the Hub is re-struck up and not in the same position as the hubbing before, rotated hubbings at a pivot point near the center would result in rotational doubling, can be in a CW direction or a CCW direction and shows towards the rim.

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 Class II Distorted Hub Doubling: 

                                                                             IDDD DDO & DDR

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   1971 S Silver BS Obverse

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                           Green indicates recorded price coin sold in indicated grade and die stage.

Stage AA VEDS Pop 0  MS68 000. . MS67 685. . MS66 225. . MS65 125. . MS64 55. . MS63 40. . MS62 30. .   

Stage A EDS -  - Pop 0. MS68 000. . MS67 665. . MS66 220. . MS65 110. . MS64 50. . MS63 38. . MS62 29. .  

Stage B EMDS - Pop 0. MS68 000. . MS67 635. . MS66 205. . MS65 105. . MS64 45.0. MS63 36. . MS62 28. .

Stage C MDS - - Pop 1. MS68 000. . MS67 625. . MS66 200. . MS65 100. . MS64 43.1. MS63 35. . MS62 27. .

Stage D LMDS - Pop 0. MS68 000. . MS67 610. . MS66 195. . MS65 95. . MS64 42. . MS63 32. . MS62 25. .

Stage E LDS - -  Pop 0. MS68 000. . MS67 600. . MS66 180. . MS65 90. . MS64 41.0. MS63 31. . MS62 24. .

Stage F VLDS -  Pop 0. MS68 000. . MS67 575. . MS66 170. . MS65 80. . MS64 40. . MS63 30. . MS62 23. . 

Population: 2. 1 Raw. TPG 1 Anacs MS64.

Top Pop Konstantinos Fatsis.

1971 S Silver PF Obverse

New Coin:  IDDDO-71 71-S PF S New   IDDDR-56   IDDP-60

Cross Reference: Ncadd Wexler old reference WDDO-043 - NEW WDDO-014.

Attributed by: IDDD Thomas Kalantzis, John Wexler.

Class: II Distorted Hub Doubled.

Reporter:

Description: New DDO Tripling seen on N of in, 9 in date, Doubling seen on I of in, GOD TRUST, the date, top of L in liberty

Reverse Description: Doubled AR of dollar, FG, Bottom right olive leaf, RIB of pluribus, star under D of united.

Marker: Full serif R in liberty.. Obverse segmented Cut lines are seen around the head, forehead, top and back of head, chin and bust.

Date recorded: 1/17/2010, Coin, CD.

Population: 3.

Comments: Obverse stage A in EDS Reverse stage B EMDS.. Anacs PF68 D/Cam. 

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       Population: 3. RAW 1. TPG: 2 Anacs

       Population: PF68 1 D/Cam EDS.  PF67 0. PF66 0. PF65 2 Cam EMDS. PF64 0. PF63 0. PF62 0.

       Top Pop. Thomas Kalantzis, TPG: Anacs PF68 D/Cam.                             

       Obverse shown is stage A in EDS Reported by: Thomas Kalantzis.

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                                                                    IDDDR-56

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1971 S BS Obverse

New Coin:  IDDDO-72 71-S BS WD-J S   IDDDR-WH-9   IDDP-61.

Cross Reference: Wexler old reference WDDO-003, New reference Obverse WWHO-002.

Attributed by: IDDD Thomas Kalantzis, John Wexler.

Class: Master/Master

Reporter:

Description: Doubling seen on IN GOD, TRUST, the 9 in date.

Reverse Description: Very small Spread seen on the AR of dollar, FG.

Markers: Obverse Full serif R in Liberty.. Obverse EMDS die has been abraded, scratch bridging the last T in trust too the top of the first one in date, circular die scratches ( do to abrading of the die ) starting from the chin up and into the eye socket.. Reverse EMDS same die state as the obverse, has been abraded, thin die crack starting from the N of united to the last T in states.

Date Recorded: 3/1/2011. coin. R57.

Population: 6. Obverse Working die-J for Hub 2. Reverse Hub 9.

Comments: Obverse and Reverse are stage B in EMDS.. Anacs 4057282 MS65.

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                          Green indicates recorded price coin sold in indicated grade and die stage.

Value: Stage AA VEDS Pop 0. MS68 440. . MS67 330. . MS66 265. . MS65 165. . MS64 80. . MS63 45. .

Value: Stage A EDS -  - Pop 2. MS68 420. . MS67 315. . MS66 245. . MS65 155. . MS64 75. . MS63 40. . 

Value: Stage B EMDS - Pop 1. MS68 400. . MS67 300. . MS66 235. . MS65 150. . MS64 70. . MS63 38. .

Reported by:Thomas Kalantzis
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                                                                                       IDDDR-WH-9

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  1971 S BS Obverse

New Coin:    IDDDO-73 71-S  WD-A S    IDDP-62

Cross Reference:

Attributed by: Thomas Kalantzis.

Class: Master.

Reporter:

Description: Small spread seen on some letters of IN GOD WE TRUST, slight doubling at the base of each letter of date, doubling also seen on ERTY of liberty.

Markers: Obverse full serif R. Obverse strong die scratches seen in front of the lips, chin and below, strongest on the right side of the E in we, continuing to the nine in date and a little under the bust.. Reverse has die scratches on and around the moon, two arcing die scratches seen in the field going into the eagles top left wing.

Date recorded: 3/1/2011. coin. 

Population: 1. Obverse Working die-A for Hub 2.

Comments:

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                         Green indicates recorded price coin sold in indicated grade and die stage.

Value: Stage AA VEDS Pop 0. MS68 440.   , MS67 330.   , MS66 265.   , MS65 195.   , MS64 70.   , MS63 55.   .

Value: Stage A EDS -  - Pop 1. MS68 420.   , MS67 315.   , MS66 245.   , MS65 185.   , MS64 60.   , MS63 50.   . 

Value: Stage B EMDS - Pop 0. MS68 400.   , MS67 300.   , MS66 235.   , MS65 180.   , MS64 50.   , MS63 45.   .

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   1971 S Silver BS Obverse

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                          Green indicates recorded price coin sold in the indicated grade and die state.

Value: Stage AA VEDS Pop 0. MS68 440. . MS67 330. . MS66 265. . MS65 165. . MS64 80. . MS63 45. .

Value: Stage A EDS -  - Pop 0. MS68 420. . MS67 315. . MS66 245. . MS65 155. . MS64 75. . MS63 40. . 

Value: Stage B EMDS - Pop 0. MS68 400. . MS67 300. . MS66 235. . MS65 150. . MS64 70. . MS63 38. .

   1971 S Silver BS Obverse

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                           Green indicates recorded price coin sold in indicated grade and die stage.

Stage AA VEDS Pop 0. MS68 770. . MS67 390. . MS66 180. . MS65 105. . MS64   49. . MS63 39. MS62 30. .   

Stage F VLDS -  Pop 0. MS68 700. . MS67 300. . MS66 120. . MS65   58. . MS64   40. . MS63 33. MS62 22. .

Population: 1. 

1971 S Silver PF Obverse

New Coin:  IDDDO-84 71-S PF WD-W S   IDDDR-WH-7   IDDP-73

Cross Reference:

Attributed by: Thomas Kalantzis.

Class: Master/Master.

Reporter:

Description:Tripling seen on the N of one, TRS of trust, Strong vertical separation lines seen on most letters of IN GOD WE TRUST, doubling is seen on the date, thin doubled spread seen on most letters of LIBERTY.

Reverse Description: CCW spread on All stars with strength on the right side, AMER of America, NE of one, LAR of dollar. 

Markers: Obverse full serif R, die gouge at the edge of the lower neck, die scratch seen to the right of Ike's nostril.. Reverse die gouge or remnants of a clash shows under the eagles beak near the throat.

Date recorded: 3/12/2011. coin.

Population: 2. Obverse Working die-W for Hub 7.. Reverse hub 7.

Comments: Obverse Raw stage D PF66 D/Cam.. Second coin Obverse raw stage E in LDS/LDS.. PF67 Cam.

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  1971 S Silver BS Obverse

New Coin:  IDDDO-85 71-S BS WD- S  IDDDR-WH-9  IDDP-74

Cross Reference:

Attributed by: Thomas Kalantzis.

Class:

Reporter: Konstantinos Fatsis.

Description: Doubling pattern seen on IN GOD WE TRUST, Date, LIBERTY.

Reverse Description: CCW spread seen on UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, and on some letters of ONE DOLLAR.

Markers: Variety Obverse full R in Liberty, Obverse clashed U to the right of WE, A die chip is seen in the eye, scratch pattern seen in field from nose to lips, part of a clash is seen in the nose and upper lip pocket in the field in the shape of a claw tip, small dot seen just below the bottom of the lower lip, scratch pattern seen between the upper and lower lips just in the pocket in the field, Scratch pattern seen in eye pocket, strong scratches seen all around the head and back of head. Reverse Scratches on and around the L of dollar, scratch seen touching the edge closest to the rim of some letters in Dollar and United. 

Date recorded: 3/24/2011 coin.

Population: 9. Obverse WD-  for working Hub 1.. Reverse Hub 9.

Comments: Working hub DDO/DDR with a clash error type variety..  69B.. Obverse & Reverse are stage B in  EMDS.. Anacs 4820734, 4820733 both same grade MS65 and die state EMDS.. One Raw Circ. All three specimens were sent in by Konstantinos Fatsis..

 IDDDO-85 in EMDS die stage shows remnants of a clashing of die's, the mint by hand abrasion method made an effort to remove all left over images of the reverse die transfered to the obverse die after the die's clashed, higher prices are paid for coins with a clear image ( EDS - Clash Die )

 Note Konstantinos Fatsis also reported IDDDO-107 with different obverse and reverse doubling then IDDDO-85 also has a clashed U.    

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 1971 S Silver PF Obverse

New Coin:  IDDDO-86 71-S PF WD-X S   IDDDR-WH-3   IDDP-75

Cross Reference:

Attributed by: Thomas Kalantzis.

Class: Master/Master.

Reporter:

Description: Tripling seen on IN,GO,TRUS of trust, doubling on the rest of the letters of IN GOD WE TRUST, date, tripling seen on LIB of liberty, doubling seen on ERTY.

Reverse Description:

Markers: Obverse full serif R, Obverse die chip in hair on top of head under E of liberty.. Reverse diagonal scratch pattern seen in and around the O of one.

Date recorded: 3/14/2011. coin.

Population: 1. Obverse Working die-X for Hub 7.. Reverse Hub 3.

Comments: Obverse stage C.

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  1971 S Silver BS Obverse   

                              New Coin:  IDDDO-89 71-S BS WD-   IDDDR-WH-7  IDDP-78

Population: 1. 1 Raw.

1971 S Silver PF Obverse

                                Comments:  Obverse is stage E in LDS.. Reverse is stage E in LDS.. Cam.

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1971 S Silver PF Obverse

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1971 S Silver PF Obverse

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                  Green indicates recorded price coin sold in the indicated grade and die stage.

                                           Value: stage AA VEDS Heavy Cameo Population.

Pop . PF69 000. . PF68 000. .  PF67 000. . PF66 000. . PF65 000. . PF64 000. . PF63 00. .PF62 00. .

                                                   Value: stage AA EDS Cameo Population.

Pop . PF69 000. . PF68 000. . PF67 000. . PF66 000. . PF65 000. . PF64 000. . PF63 00. . PF62 00. .

                                                         Value: stage AA EDS None Cameo.

Pop . PF69 000. . PF68 000. . PF67 000. . PF66 000. . PF65 000. . PF64 000. . PF63 00. . PF62 00. .

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                                           Value: stage A EDS Heavy Cameo Population.

Pop . PF69 000. . PF68 000. . PF67 000. . PF66 000. . PF65 000. . PF64 000. . PF63 00. . PF62 00. .

                                                   Value: stage A Cameo Population.

Pop . PF69 000. . PF68 000. . PF67 000. . PF66 000. . PF65 000. . PF64 000. . PF63 00. . PF62 00. .

                                                         Value: stage A None Cameo.

Pop . PF69 000. . PF68 000. . PF67 000. . PF66 000. . PF65 000. . PF64 000. . PF63 00. . PF62 00. .

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                                           Value: stage B Heavy Cameo Population.

Pop . PF69 000. . PF68 000. . PF67 000. . PF66 000. . PF65 000. . PF64 000. . PF63 000. . PF62 000. .

                                                  Value: stage B Cameo Population.

Pop . PF69 000. . PF68 000. . PF67 000. . PF66 000. . PF65 000. . PF64 000. . PF63 000. . PF62 000. .

                                                          Value: stage B None Cameo.

Pop . PF69 000. . PF68 000. . PF67 000. . PF66 000. . PF65 000. . PF64 000. . PF63 000. . PF62 000. .

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                                           Value: stage C Heavy Cameo Population.

Pop.0. PF69 000. . PF68 000. . PF67 000. . PF66 000. . PF65 000. . PF64 000. . PF63 00. . PF62 00. .

                                                 Value: stage C Cameo Population.

Pop.1. PF69 000. . PF68 000. . PF67 000. . PF66 000. . PF65 000. . PF64 000. . PF63 00. . PF62 00. .

                                                       Value: stage C None Cameo.

Pop . PF69 000. . PF68 000. . PF67 000. . PF66 000. . PF65 000. . PF64 000. . PF63 00. . PF62 000..

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1971 S Silver PF Obverse

                                Comments: Obverse stage E Cam.

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1971 S Silver BS Obverse

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                            Green indicates recorded price coin sold in indicated grade and die stage.

Stage AA VEDS Pop 0. MS68 000. . MS67 685. . MS66 235. . MS65 115. . MS64   47. . MS63 35. MS62 28. .

Stage A EDS -  - Pop 0. MS68 000. . MS67 675. . MS66 220. . MS65 110. . MS64   45. . MS63 36. MS62 27. .

Stage B EMDS - Pop 2. MS68 000. . MS67 655. . MS66 200.2. MS65 95. . MS64   44. . MS63 37. MS62 26. .

Stage C MDS - - Pop 0. MS68 000. . MS67 630. . MS66 190.0. MS65 85. . MS64   43. . MS63 35. MS62 25. .

Stage D LMDS - Pop 0. MS68 000. . MS67 620. . MS66 180. . MS65 70. . MS64   41. . MS63 34. MS62 23. .

Stage E LDS - -  Pop 0. MS68 000. . MS67 600. . MS66 165. . MS65 60. . MS64   39. . MS63 32. MS62 22. .

Stage F VLDS -  Pop 0. MS68 000. . MS67 590. . MS66 150. . MS65 55. . MS64   37. . MS63 30. MS62 21. .

Population: 2. 1 Raw. TPG: 1 Anacs 2879324 MS66 old holder. MDS/LMDS.

1971 S Silver BS Obverse

                  New Coin:  IDDDO-98 71-S BS S   IDDDR-83-WH-9   IDDP-87

                  Cross Reference:

                  Attributed by: Thomas Kalantzis.

                  Class: II.  Master/Master.

                  Reporter: Konstantinos Fatsis.

                  Description: Doubling seen on IN GOD WE TRUST, DATE upper serif on first 1, extra thickness on the 9, a notch on the upper top right of 7, last 1 has a split serif on the bottom left serif, LIBERTY.

       Reverse Description:  CCW Spread seen on UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, E.PLURIBU, doubling seen on some stars, NE of one, LLAR of dollar.

                  Markers: Obverse Scratches in eye pocket, struck-through above and on the word IN, in the form of thread in this die state. Reverse - Error - large die gouge on eagles left wing.

                  Date recorded: 1/7/2012. CD.

                  Population: 1. Obverse WD-  for working Hub 1. Reverse Hub 9.

                  Comments: Obverse & Reverse are in stage A EDS.. Anacs MS66..  Later die state specimens are needed for more study on this die.. Mint mark placement is slightly higher then IDDDO-97.

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                          Green indicates recorded price coin sold in indicated grade and die stage.

Stage AA VEDS Pop 0. MS68 770. . MS67 395. . MS66 215. . MS65 120. . MS64   52. . MS63 39. MS62 30. .   

Stage A EDS -  - Pop 1. MS68 000. . MS67 675. . MS66 220.1. MS65 105. . MS64   48. . MS63 38. MS62 28. .

Stage B EMDS - Pop 0. MS68 000. . MS67 655. . MS66 200. . MS65   100. . MS64   47.0. MS63 37. MS62 26. .

Stage C MDS - - Pop 0. MS68 000. . MS67 635. . MS66 190. . MS65   95. . MS64   46. . MS63 36. MS62 25. .

Stage D LMDS - Pop 0. MS68 000. . MS67 625. . MS66 180. . MS65   85. . MS64   45. . MS63 35. MS62 24. .

Stage E LDS - -  Pop 0. MS68 000. . MS67 605. . MS66 170. . MS65   68. . MS64   43. . MS63 34. MS62 23. .

Stage F VLDS -  Pop 0. MS68 000. . MS67 600. . MS66 160. . MS65   62. . MS64   41. . MS63 33. MS62 22. . 

Population: 1. 1 Anacs MS66.

Population: MS68 0.  MS67 0. MS66 1. MS65 0. MS64 0. MS63 0. MS 62 0. MS61 0. MS 60 . 

Obverse & Reverse of coin shown is stage A in EDS Reported by Konstantinos Fatsis.

Top Pop Konstantinos Fatsis.

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  

 
 
 
 

  
 
 
 
 
 
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1971 S Silver BS Obverse

                Green indicates recorded price coin sold in indicated grade and die stage. Red for reverse.

Stage AA VEDS Pop 0. MS68 000. . MS67 680. . MS66 210. . MS65 99. . MS64 50. . MS63 39. MS62 35. .

Stage A EDS -  - Pop 0. MS68 000. . MS67 671. . MS66 190. . MS65 95. . MS64 47. . MS63 38. MS62 31. .  

Stage B EMDS - Pop 0. MS68 000. . MS67 652. . MS66 170. . MS65 90. . MS64 46. . MS63 37. MS62 25. .

Stage C MDS - - Pop 1. MS68 000. . MS67 633. . MS66 155. . MS65 80 1.MS64 45. . MS63 36. MS62 24. .

Stage D LMDS - Pop 0. MS68 000. . MS67 620. . MS66 145. . MS65 78. . MS64 43. . MS63 35. MS62 23. .

Stage E LDS - -  Pop 0. MS68 000. . MS67 600. . MS66 135. . MS65 67. . MS64 42. . MS63 33. MS62 22. .

Stage F VLDS -  Pop 0. MS68 000. . MS67 595. . MS66 126. . MS65 61. . MS64 40. . MS63 26. MS62 21. .

Population: 1.

Population: MS68 0.  MS67 0. MS66 0. MS65 1. MS64 0. MS63 0. MS 62 0. MS61 0. MS 60 0. AU58 0.

Obverse of coin shown is stage A in EDS Reported by Thomas Kalantzis.

1971 S Silver PF Obverse

1971 S Silver PF Obverse

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                                           Value: stage AA VEDS Heavy Cameo Population.

Pop . PF69 000. . PF68 000. . PF67 000. . PF66 000. . PF65 000. . PF64 000. . PF63 00. . PF62 00. .

                                                   Value: stage A EDS Cameo Population.

Pop . PF69 000. . PF68 000. . PF67 000. . PF66 000. . PF65 000. . PF64 000. . PF63 00. . PF62 00. .

                                                            Value: stage EDS None Cameo.

Pop . PF69 000. . PF68 000. . PF67 000. . PF66 000. . PF65 000. . PF64 000. . PF63 00. . PF62 00. .

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                                           Value: stage A EDS Heavy Cameo Population.

Pop . PF69 000. . PF68 000. . PF67 000. . PF66 000. . PF65 000. . PF64 000. . PF63 00.  . PF62 00. .

                                                   Value: stage A Cameo Population.

Pop . PF69 000. . PF68 000. . PF67 000. . PF66 000. . PF65 000. . PF64 000. . PF63 00. . PF62 00. .

                                                            Value: stage A None Cameo.

Pop . PF69 000. . PF68 000. . PF67 000. . PF66 000. . PF65 000. . PF64 000. . PF63 00. . PF62 00. .

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                                           Value: stage B Heavy Cameo Population.

Pop . PF69 000. . PF68 000. . PF67 000. . PF66 000. . PF65 000. . PF64 000. . PF63 00. . PF62 00. .

                                                   Value: stage B Cameo Population.

Pop . PF69 000. . PF68 000. . PF67 000. . PF66 000. . PF65 000. . PF64 000. . PF63 00. . PF62 00. .

                                                            Value: stage B None Cameo.

Pop . PF69 000. . PF68 000. . PF67 000. . PF66 000. . PF65 000. . PF64 000. . PF63 00. . PF62 00. .

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                                           Value: stage C Heavy Cameo Population.

Pop . PF69 000. . PF68 000. . PF67 000. . PF66 000. . PF65 000. . PF64 000. . PF63 00. . PF62 00. .

                                                   Value: stage C Cameo Population.

Pop . PF69 000. . PF68 000. . PF67 000. . PF66 000. . PF65 000. . PF64 000. . PF63 00. . PF62 00. .

                                                            Value: stage C None Cameo.

Pop . PF69 000. . PF68 000. . PF67 000. . PF66 000. . PF65 000. . PF64 000. . PF63 00. . PF62 00. .

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1971 S Silver PF Obverse

                            Comments: Obverse stage D LMDS.. Anacs 4057255.. PF67 Cam.. Second coin Obverse stage E LDS.. SEGS 166624 PF65 Cam..

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 1971 S Silver PF Obverse

 1971 S Silver PF Obverse

                       Comments: out to Anacs.. 

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 1971 S Silver PF Obverse

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